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33 Snuff Flicks are real, right?

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33 Snuff Flicks are real, right?

Uh, no. The following is from the alt.folklore.urban archive:

From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: snopes Hits the Big Time
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 21:56:55 GMT

This morning's edition of Metro, Silicon Valley's bargain-at-twice-the-price
free paper, carries a Cecil Adams column on "snuff films" allegedly
precipitated by the following two-cent letter:

Is there really such a thing as a snuff film?
--Snopes (sic), Canoga Park, Calif.

Cecil says, in a word, no. Many of the points he makes have been made on this
newsgroup many times before, but he comes up with some illuminating
specificities:

-- The whole legend, including the use of the word "snuff", started at least
as far back as 1970, when one Alan Shakleton (no relation to the Antarctic
explorer) hacked up a Manson Family rip-off film called "Slaughter" to
produce "Snuff in New York City". His slogan was "Made in South America Where
Life is Cheap".

-- "Feminist legal scholar" Catharine McKinnon insists that snuff films
exist, but won't put out when pressed for confirmation.

-- Ted McIlvanna, keeper of The Institute for the Advanced Study of Human
Sexuality's collection of 289,000 sex movies and 100,000 videos, has seen
only three on-camera deaths in 25 years of hard study. Two were accidents
where not uncommon sorts of non-vanilla adventures went awry. The last was "a
bizarre religious number from Morocco in which a hunchbacked kid was torn
apart by wild horses while men stood around and masturbated".

He also mentions the Zapruder film, "Faces of Death", and other things
already bandied about here, and comes to the same conclusion our saner old
hats have: "It's not impossible that one will turn up. But the notion that [a
whole industry exists] and that for 20 years they've succeeded in concealing
all traces of their handiwork strikes me as absurd".

[Quotations cited under fair use; readers should buy Cecil's next book and
write nice letters about him to his papers.]

My only questions are these: How much did snopes and Cecil collaborate on
this bit, and has anyone ever seen the enigmatic Ed Zotti and the apocryphal
David Mikkleson in the same place? And is it Cecil or some copy editor who
keeps capitalizing "snopes"?

Phil "UL's at last! UL's at last!" Gustafson

Subject: Re: Snuff films
From: vacsc00c@vax.csun.edu (snopes)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 04:31:00 GMT

> So, when a couple of people kidnap, rape and murder several
> teenaged girls, and live off the money they made from selling the
> videos, does _this_ qualify as a snuff film?

Snuff? Snuff? Did someone mention snuff? Funny you should bring that up. (My
heart always skips a beat when I find an official-looking envelope bearing
the return address of "U.S. Department of Justice" in my mailbox.)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
U.S. Department of Justice
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Washington, D.C.

July 16, 1993

Dear Mr. Mikkelson:

Your April 21st letter to the FBI has been brought to my
attention, and I regret my delay in responding.

My colleagues who handle investigative matters which could
possibly involve "snuff films" have advised me that to their
knowledge, the FBI has never found or confiscated a "snuff film."
We, of course, cannot speak for other law enforcement agencies.

I hope I have been of help to you in settling your debate.

Sincerely yours,

Michael F. Knapp
Inspector-Deputy Chief
Office of Public and
Congressional Affairs

Special thanks go to Jason Heimbaugh (jrh@cathouse.org) for bringing this to
my attention

This material could be found at the alt.folklore.urban archive
(http://cathouse.org).

 

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