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This article is from the misc anime FAQ, by nikkou with numerous contributions by others.
From: Erik Schultz Date: 8 Apr 2001 09:40:54 -0500 "Christopher Beilby" wrote:
>Nargun wrote: >> Legend of galactic heros, aka Ginga no eiyuu no densetsu IIRC, aka >> homo^H^H^H^Hboring germans in space. > >So, tell me something, Nargun. Is there something about anime with an >actual story that you don't like?
Actually, that's how fans of the series often describe it to others, including myself. ^_^ LoGH is definitely not for everyone.
Everything you want and don't want to know about The Legend of the Galactic Heroes Ginga Eiyuu Dentetsu: The LoGH Info Center http://www.logh.net/
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A raa.misc look at LoGH...
Subject: (no longer OT) LoGH (was: The German Military) From: Chris Johnson Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 15:48:00 -0400
"DAVID A MILLER" wrote:
> "Shadow6865" wrote in message > > I don't believe in "vassals nobly serving their leige and country, > > whether right or wrong." I don't believe in monarchy or nobility, I am > > too much of an eagalitarian to believe in such titles. I believe that > > all titles such as Lord, Lady, Duke, Baron, King, Emperor, etc. should > > be eradicated even if the titles don't grant anyone any actual power. > > Call it the spirit of revolution still left in me by my American > > forefathers who went against king to form the first government with no > > nobility or monarchy. > > Cromwell, Robespierre, Mark Twain and Pol Pot are applauding your opinion > this moment. Fortunately, they are already dead, so their opinions don't > "Count" (^o^).
Your examples merely illustrate that it's somewhat pointless to make statements about "egalitarianism" in general. In democracies, the legal system is based on the notion that everyone is equal before the law, and when that principle is subvert people tend to be outraged; that's an expression of egalitarianism. So are the health care systems in most Western European countries. So is the American tendency to prefer common sense, heartland populist values to the "Eastern Establishment". What ever you think of such examples (and we don't need to have a health care debate or culture war here), there's a vast difference between such phenomena and the "egalitarianism" of a Robespierre or Pol Pot.
Getting back to anime, one can see this at work in Legend of the Galactic Heroes. (Note: I've only seen the first 20 or so episode arc.) In some sense both Yang Wenli of the Free Planets Alliance and Reinhard von Lohengramm of the Galactic Empire are egalitarian.
Von Lohengramm sees the nobility as a parasitic, decadent class that's living off the sweat of the commoners. He wants to smash this class system. Yet he seems to aspire to become emperor. He's basically going down the road toward becoming an "egalitarian despot"; in Marxian lingo, we might call him a Bonapartist. Thus, while we sort of sympathize with him, he's a morally ambiguous character. There's something "progressive" about him - commoners might actual benefit from his rule - but also a potential dark side. He may be an egalitarian (to an extent - there are contradictions here), but he's definitely not a democrat.
Yang Wenli, on the other hand, is a democrat. He does a great deal to save the democratic institutions and protections for civil liberties of the Free Planets Alliance, though they've become distorted and corrupted by the war. Thus, despite all the shades of grey and corruption on both sides in LoGH, we can say that Yang is the "good guy" in a real sense that von Lohengramm isn't.
-- Chris Johnson
"In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse." -- T.S. Eliot, "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
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